Who won the Nas/Jay beef?

[TheWarchief]

but who won the Easy E and Dre Beef?

Tim Dog

[Resilient]

alright, you won, Mike

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[Big Moose]

The Gay Z and Cockafella line was pretty corny tbh

but

Rockafeller died of aids that was the end of his chapter
and thats the dude you chose to name your company after?
put it together..
I rock hoes, yall roc fellas

that part was crucial

Foxy got you hot, cuz you kept your face in her puss'
what you think you gettin girls now, cuz of your looks?
negro please, you no mustache havin'
with whiskers like a rat, compare to Beans you wack

that part is the meanest and prolly my fav bit

[xcalibur]

there were several shots back & forth, but I'll compare the main tracks. Takeover and Ether both went hard, I'd say they're close to tied, with Ether arguably being stronger. Supa Ugly got really personal, then Nas had another response (I think with the same sample as Paid in Full?) that was lyrically strong, and had the edge. so I voted Nas. I just wish I could remember that Nas song, it wasn't Realest N*gga Alive, it was something else.

as for Biggie vs Pac, obviously 2pac won, although Biggie is one of my favorite rappers, and always vibed to him more.

[doctor_wp]

The Gay Z and Cockafella line was pretty corny tbh

but

Rockafeller died of aids that was the end of his chapter
and thats the dude you chose to name your company after?
put it together..
I rock hoes, yall roc fellas

that part was crucial

Foxy got you hot, cuz you kept your face in her puss'
what you think you gettin girls now, cuz of your looks?
negro please, you no mustache havin'
with whiskers like a rat, compare to Beans you wack

that part is the meanest and prolly my fav bit

Those parts are just a man talking about another man’s appearance.

Jay Z actually fucked Nas’s baby mom and skeeted in his vehicle.

How is that not an auto win?

[xcalibur]

there's two different questions: who won the hip-hop battle, and who won the war for career/influence? Nas won the battle, Jay-Z won the war.

[Golden]

Nas

[Big Moose]

Those parts are just a man talking about another man’s appearance.

Jay Z actually fucked Nas’s baby mom and skeeted in his vehicle.

How is that not an auto win?

I kind of agree

Thats why I made the thread.

I think on one had, Nas won the battle by most measures. Of all the various songs in and around the beef, Ether stands alone as the best. He rapped better than Jay. Which is no small feat, obviously.

But Jay wouldn't accept defeat and dropped that bomb you mentioned. And that's the one wildcard factor that can level the playing field in a battle. Willingness to be straight up disrespectful.


It's just kind of conflicting. It seems more honorable to reward skill over savagery. We all love Hit Em Up. But that level of one-upmanship results in a cycle of dead young rappers that continues to this day. I think every rapper goes into every diss knowing they have to balance how disrespectful they are going to be. I love The Story of Adidon. Some say it was a low blow/cheap shot by Push

Depends where your loyalties and rooting interests lie i suppose.

I got Nas edging it out just barely. But I can see why people would say Jay won. I've gone back and forth a time or two myself